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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 14, 2012 12:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

I used to think maybe it was a Fillmore East in-house camera.
But then again, I can't really think of any FE shows that Graham filmed in 1970 (that we know of). Maybe someone knows of other clips from this period?
On the other hand, no way Graham & crew would let an audience member film, especially from that close. A camera couldn't be hidden! So it's kind of a mystery who would've been filming.

Yes, Jerry did move a little bit during Hard to Handle! If we had more footage from the early years, we would probably see him become more immobile over the years.
If you remember the Newport '68 footage, he was right up at the front of the stage bouncing up & down while he played:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJcMUMh5IA8
I've heard other reports of him playing like that early on. I guess that phased out around '69.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 14, 2012 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

H2H & IBAATW are in fact the 'Bear's Choice' versions, correct?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 16, 2012 11:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Yes.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 14, 2012 1:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

uhmmm, you guys correctly noticed (and noted) a "discreet camera", but, you should have checked in with the village idiot first...

All kidding aside, that's not film. That's video. This is shot with a single video camera, and it was recorded onto video tape.

The cameraman-taper appears to be standing near an aisle about one section back, and off to the right audience side, during Hard To Handle. All these people keep walking by, like it's an aisle there in front of him. Yet, the acoustic footage looks like it may have been shot from slightly above, as if he was up in the balcony, and up front. Dark Star looks like he is standing in front of the stage off to the right.

As any Taper would say, "this is the shit!"

All these shots look like he is shooting with a handheld video camera up around his chin (not over the shoulder, and not on a tripod). Shooting video like this "out in the field" (portable) was something new (not film). It's amazing that the video is this good when it is shot in such low-light conditions. I am assuming this audio is overdubbed and synched to the video.

The 1968 Newport Pop footage is actual film (not video), multi-camera.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Oct 14, 2012 6:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Correct me if I'm wrong, Monte. (one village idiot to another...) Although the technology existed since the 50s, I don't remember any consumer "camcorder" models as early as 1970, and I think the first VHS machines appeared late 71 or early 72. The first "consumer" camcorders were large, cumbersome - about the size of a briefcase and weighed about 12-15 lbs. Most needed an electrical outlet nearby, as the batteries wore out in no time. My first memories of these is in the late 70s, no one I knew could afford these.

Is it possible this was filmed originally, then a crude transfer was made to tape ? (ie, shot off the wall ?) I agree with all your other assessments, btw. This IS the shit.

edit: After another look, I now agree with Monte - all the artifacting / light streaks / after images must come from a primitive video camera, not film. Just curious who could have such equipment, it would have been very expensive and bulky.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Oct 14, 2012 10:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

a couple of things. first, the night before was the first time i saw the Grateful Dead so this i really cool for me. Second there was other footage that is very similar in quality so i'm gonna guess it was an in-house person. here's jimi hendrix and band of gypsies about one month earlier on new years eve:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9AaQQbvT4M&;feature=related

This post was modified by Jeff Kaplan on 2012-10-15 05:04:23

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Poster: FEphotographer Date: Oct 15, 2012 3:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

The black and white Band of Gypsys video is from New Year's Day January 1, 1970 and was made by Jan Blom on the Sony port-a-pak 1/2 inch camera and deck, the only and first portable video set-up at that time in history. (The fine quality color 16mm material was shot by me on New Year's Eve. In any event, it shouldn't be on YouTube or anywhere else since it was pirated in the film lab when I had the transfers made to video in 1989.) The black and white Grateful Dead material from February 14, 1970 is new to me and I would very much like to know who made it and where the video surfaced from. Since I was always there, being on the Fillmore East staff, in general I knew who was doing what when it came to media. This source is unknown to me. However, I have photographs of this show, one of which I offer here.

Attachment: GD12_B_W.jpg

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 15, 2012 11:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Wow, lots of informative stuff here.
The Hendrix video is great; I wasn't sure whether it was a random audience taper or a BG-approved thing.

Your picture of the Dead is especially cool because we can see the video-taper of this film! (Solves what camera was used, anyway.) Makes me think he had to be BG-approved as well, as I can't believe the FE crew would let an audience member stand up front & film like that.
And since that photo comes from a different song than we see in the clips, more of the show must have been taped.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 15, 2012 12:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

It's obviously not the acoustic number or the Pig tune, but it's not necessarily Dark Star because...?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 16, 2012 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Well, with both drummers drumming, Pigpen on organ, and the whole audience clapping along, it's clearly not a Dark Star moment!
Since Pigpen didn't play organ in many songs, I wonder if we could narrow down which moment it is...

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 15, 2012 12:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

The acoustic GD song on tape is shot from above. The Jimi video is shot from above. Both camera shots appear to be "not" handheld. It looks like each videographer is shooting from the same balcony location on the right. The Jimi video is shot more professionally. The zooms and pans are smoother and less jerky than GD acoustic song video. It looks like the Jimi camera is crudely mounted to a fluid head on top of a tripod or pedestal. The GD acoustic song footage has pans and zooms which are hardly professional. This camera's head is likely not a fluid head, but it's not shaky like the other GD songs (appearing handheld), so it's mounted very crudely onto something firm. The Jimi camera's video has a better contrast ratio, so it looks like the iris setting is more optimal while shooting and taping. The GD camera lens goes out of focus a lot when zooming in and out, so maybe his back-focusing lens adjustment was out of adjustment. In my village idiot opinion, the guy shooting GD video was not really professional, but the guy who shot the Jimi video was. The Jimi cameraman was better prepared. The guy shooting GD video looks like a taper-hipster who was "winging it" during an "inside job". FEphotographer's image shows how well the FE staff are accommodating him.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 16, 2012 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Also note that Dark Star was from the early 2/14 show, while Hard to Handle & All Around This World were from the late show. So not only did the cameraman move around to different spots, he caught both shows that day. (And since we're talking about a film clip that's edited together, it's possible there was more than one cameraman, too.)

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Oct 15, 2012 5:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Really excellent photographic record FEP. Note that video camera directly in front of Pig is huge. We appreciate your sharing insights here.

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Poster: vapors Date: Oct 15, 2012 4:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

Looks like the guy on the right in front of Pigpen's organ is holding a video(?) camera.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 15, 2012 8:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

I taped AUDs of GD w/ my tape deck slung over my shoulder like this
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Re: John's comment, "huge video camera"
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First of all, it had to contain an image-orthicon-type video tube like the one shown above, not to mention, lots of electronics and a power supply. Notice the lens is no slouch either, being bigger than the photographer's fist. And its "zooming power" is demonstrated quite impressively during Hard To Handle. What I can say is, this camera is pretty small sized for early 1970 when compared to what Broadcasters were using.

Sony camera and 1/2" open reel videotape recorder (Portapak) introduced to the market in 1967
portapak.jpg

Thanks for providing your priceless photo to The Archive!

FEphotographer-GD12_B_W.jpg

Here are some one-inch-tape VTRs in this pic of me. They are Ampex model VPR-2B. This was photographed at USA Network broadcast center, Armstrong Tower, Alpine, NJ, springtime 1982. Here's a pic of me in their master control room.

usa-network-monte.jpg



This post was modified by Monte B Cowboy on 2012-10-15 15:14:25

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffJeff Kaplan Date: Oct 15, 2012 9:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

welcome to the forum! that's a great photo. of course i'd love to see more from the night before to find my young self. i was stage left in about the 10 row for the early show iirc.

the band of gypsys tape imo is one of the most important videos in rock history. i consider that perfomance of Machine Gun to be the pinnacle of Jimi Hendix career and (with all apologies to Jerry Garcia) the single best guitar solo in history. so thank you for being there with a camera to record it.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Oct 15, 2012 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Team Fillmore East

That Jimi footage you linked to on YouTube looks like it was shot with the same Sony port-a-pak model as the one used for the new GD footage. The huge difference is that the Jimi video tape was in way, way better condition during playback when it was transferred. It could be the tapes were kept somewhere different? The GD tape is damaged and the Jimi tape is not.

Is this Jan Blom (or perhaps the Fillmore East videographer)?
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The videographer in this new image is using the same model Sony portapak, and he is shooting Rock n Roll professionally here. He has his VTR inside a portapak cover. He's not using any cover on his camera. To correct myself, the VTR probably contains all the batteries, so the camera power is coming up the umbilical cord.

Also, the Jimi video footage was shot more steady-cam style. It is way less shaky than the GD footage, except for the acoustic song. I think that song and the Jimi footage were shot using a small tripod or pedestal with a camera head. Below is an image of such a rig for Sony's vintage b & w portapak.

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